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    • Greenmeadow
      Provoke Coronavirus to show symptoms if infected
      That's an interesting question.  Hopefully by the time it is in our areas we will have more info on how this disease progresses. It makes sense to be preemptive with our health though. The main things clif suggested are fine even with cytokine storms Vit C, Vit D, Vit B6, Chaga mushroom   So far it sounds like the cytokine storm "might" be a factor.  We don't really know how transmissible it is or how deadly.  We might just come down with a cold and it won't be too rough. That may depend upon our diet and immune system. Countries with a lot of malnutrition are likely to far worse.    I know I have gone to work with a runny nose before. But if this comes around that runny nose may be ok for you and deadly for someone else. So I would want to pay more attention to my symptoms. For myself i am very reactive to dairy and wheat. I will have some congestion if I have eaten them in the last 3 days so I probably need to stop them  entirely just so I will notice congestion from disease and not allergies.   You are on the public page by the way.  Private message Foxx and ask to get on the private forum where we have been having more in depth discussions.
    • david19m
      Provoke Coronavirus to show symptoms if infected
      Thank you, I forgot about the blood pressure. 

      Sorry if I was too imprecise, I didn't meant to say to consume those products after you know that you've contracted the virus, but maybe as a way to detect changes in your body when consuming them. Would it be advisable to preemptively stop the consumption of those products in the event of growing infection rates in my city?
    • Odinson
      Provoke Coronavirus to show symptoms if infected
      Maybe greetings will become a series of casual tests people give to each other to aggravate the virus to get it to show?  Like a drunk roadside test?
    • david19m
      Provoke Coronavirus to show symptoms if infected
      That sounds reasonable. I'm not refering about consuming those products when you know you have Covid-19. It's clear that you should avoid fully those foods. 
      My concern is due the fact that in many individuals, symptoms begin to emerge after 15-20 days, in that period, you would be infecting others without knowing, and you would have a 15-20 day period in which you wouldn't be able to take remedies, avoid certain type of foods, increase the intake of others, because you simple wouldn't know if you have the virus. So that's why I thought that the foods that you would've to avoid during a cytokine storm, common food that most people consume regularly like chocolate, honey, dairy, bananas, could be used as way to monitor if you suddenly develop symptoms after consuming those common products. 

      So, if Covid-19 begins to spread in X or Y city, would it be better to cut preventively that kind of products to avoid the worsening of symptoms if infected?
    • Greenmeadow
      Provoke Coronavirus to show symptoms if infected
      Clif said in one of his videos to start measuring your blood pressure and temp. He said those may change before you feel anything so you should know your normal vital signs.   Going into the disease a raised blood pressure may be one of the only symptoms. Stress can also raise your blood pressure. Get a wrist cuff and test lowering your blood pressure with breathing and relaxation. you should be able to do it if it is just stress. If your blood pressure is high and you have been exposed but have no other symptoms slam the Vit C , Vit D and B6.   The first member of the cytokine storm family to be recognized by physicians was sepsis. The appreciation that the consequences of sepsis are a result not of the pathogen, but rather the immune response to the pathogen. One of the symptoms of sepsis is lowered blood pressure that cannot be raised with IV fluids. I would use blood pressure dropping as a sign to stop anything immune support like elderberry and go heavy on the Vit B6 and antivirals like Vit C.   Basic symptoms of the cytokine storm are inflammatory : high fever, swelling and redness, extreme fatigue and nausea The ""swelling and redness" can be a whole limb swollen and turning red and purple and painful.        
    • bzpal
      Provoke Coronavirus to show symptoms if infected
      We ALL have all kinds of 'diseases' in our systems which never need to emerge if our immune systems are healthy. It doesn't make sense to try to force an illness to manifest if we are healthy enough to contain or keep it in remission. There is NO positive result in trying to make it more REAL.  Are you nutz?
    • david19m
      Provoke Coronavirus to show symptoms if infected
      Yes, that's what I see. The problem with the Covid-19, it seems, is that a lot of people don't show any symptoms until 15-20 days, many of them fall ill in the streets, Clif High told that it might be low blood pressure caused by the Coronavirus, I think that prostaglandins, that act with cytokines, are the ones that cause many of those fades. 
      Others might be because the acumulation of phlegm in the lungs causes shortness of breath. 
      Many of the cases are developing neumonia, but that neumonia might be produced mainly by the phlegm in the lungs, not the coronavirus itself. 

      I don't see any information related to phlegm expell in the patients, I see that most of them have dry cough. 

      My point is, could those foods to avoid during a cytokine storm, wouldn't them be a cheap way to monitor our health, mainly because healthy adults don't show any symptom in 15-20 days, a way to force the disease to manifest symptoms. Or it could be too dangerous?
    • bzpal
      If Coronavirus is a bioweapon, could it's purpose be to stop the exposure of the elites?
      OOPS! They've been caught!! They may have wanted to use it as a distraction, but they've been found out! Now, will the MSM cover it, or cover it up??   https://patriots4truth.org/2020/01/28/corona-virus-is-a-globalist-bioweapon/
    • bzpal
      Provoke Coronavirus to show symptoms if infected
      Good to know about bananas causing mucous... first time I've ever heard that!  I'm just about to go chop down a huge bunch that is beginning to ripen, and will pay more attention to how they affect me. I wonder if squeezing lime juice on them (how I usually eat them) will mitigate it....  have to experiment.   Sooooooo... looks like eat everything in the last category up until you feel sick, then stop. In fact, isn't fasting one of the best things to do if you feel sick? Hydration is important, but food just puts more stress on the whole system.
    • Greenmeadow
      Provoke Coronavirus to show symptoms if infected
      Take a look at this article again on the cytokine storm. It seems to say that some diseases are immune to  our cytokines which are part of our immune system. So you don't want to overproduce cytokines when faced with those diseases. Then the cytokines overwhelm us and can't effect the disease.  See the article for the list of supplements that support health or create risk of cytokine storm. This one is worth printing out. Dr. Carol’s Holistic Natural Remedy’s Fight Swine Flu Naturally! https://www.chagrinfallspetclinic.com/2009/04/29/dr-carols-holistic-natural-remedys-fight-swine-flu-naturally/       Helpful   To avoid  
    • david19m
      Provoke Coronavirus to show symptoms if infected
      That's why I think that maybe consuming those products, chocolate, honey, etc.. that are cheap and easily available, at the same time, everyday, might be a way to know if you've been infected with the coronavirus, or maybe any other flu/influenza virus. In normal times it would help to boost your inmune system, but in infection, it would accelerate the symptoms.   What I don't know is how dangerous it would be. I think it helped me to expell build up phlegm that I was unaware off, Anybody know some data about the evolution of patients that show symptoms late? 
    • david19m
      Provoke Coronavirus to show symptoms if infected
      Yes, at first I also tought it was gerd, because the first night I had it after sleep, but the other nights was way before laying down. That's why I suspect I had a flu virus, and the phlegm over acumulation and expell was due the chocolate I consumed at night.
    • bzpal
      Provoke Coronavirus to show symptoms if infected
      As I understood it, it is only during a 'cytokine storm' immune response when you should stop those foods which ordinarily boost immunity. Otherwise, eat as much as you can to build up a good immune system.
    • gigi
      Provoke Coronavirus to show symptoms if infected
      Yep: I stopped my dark chocolate fetish when that was posted here. Killing me but I am coping:-) 
    • Foxx
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      Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad - Prometheus
     

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