If Coronavirus is a bioweapon, could it's purpose be to stop the exposure of the elites?

[david19m]

After the Podesta leaks and the winning of Donald Trump, upon the arrest and death of Epstein, everything pointed to the mass incarceration of the elites. If Coronavirus is a bioweapon, could it's purpose be to stop the flow of information? 
In the event of a pandemic, we would be preoccupied for survival, and even the most atrocious acts would sound unimportant compared to survive. Sorry for my bad english, hope you can give me some insight or thoughts.

[bzpal]

Well, what you suggest certainly worked well for them after 9/11.... everyone forgot all about the missing trillions at the Pentagon, the massive securities fraud, etc. Will be interesting to see who catches the virus first in the US. They will probably start seeding it at the Trump rallies.

[bzpal]

This is pretty interesting about the Pentagon's recent experiments and developments regarding bats and coronavirus:

Bats, Gene Editing and Bioweapons: Recent Darpa Experiments Raise Concerns Amid Coronavirus Outbreak

https://www.unz.com/wwebb/bats-gene-editing-and-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/

[bzpal]

So far Robert David Steele, Benjamin Fulford and Jim Stone (likely more that I don't know about as well) have all said the virus was engineered and launched by Israel, (implying) because China would side with Iran in the coming conflict. Stone's other theory is that this is the culling of dissidents, and that all the 'citizen reports' are actually being put out by the government. Worth reading if you want your head to spin: http://82.221.129.208

[david19m]

Thanks for the info, yes, you're right, 9/11 deleted from public memory a lot of nefarious deals. 
Something that I see now is that with this virus is that in China, people might adopt measurements that would take years to be adopted by the general population, like the use of only digital means of payment. There are videos of bank cashiers disinfecting bills in mass quantity, people might be afraid to use money and accept fully digital money.

[Peter]

People (all over the world) do not tend to think rationally when they are attacked. So "let's attack the whole world" because video's like these below are like gas to a turbocharger if the public has time to actually ponder things vs. react to a "threat". (real or imagined)

 

This video series is disappearing from the internet.

 

The guy I got the videos from has a private server. Download link below;

https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=kZ91RskZbtEMAMfwnkHANnWhL4UOsj7D21wy

End of the Cabal.

There are 10, but they are short and organized by topic.

 

 

Edited February 14, 2020 by Peter

[gbusrt]

On 2/11/2020 at 3:26 PM, bzpal said:

Benjamin Fulford

this bugger works for the deep state, there an interview of him with Rockafella. Pre interview he was ... they all scum and hurting mankind during the interview the question and attitude was that of a fan boy, or low servant to a master

since i saw that i never trusted anything he said, schorch fall is another one planted in the alt community to spread dissent/dis info/miss info

 

my unasked for 2c

i suspect over 50% if the info we all go looking for is planted to get the desired reaction, we are small in number but drive the herd and so we are disproportionally targeted. I wonder how many posting here are payed to do so.

Is clif complicit or manipulated ??

he comes out with stuff i would never even have found (scaner/tens anti fungals virus stuff) but also sits on info and admitted to doing it. makes it hard to make informed decisions of part of the info is hidden

 

Edited February 14, 2020 by gbusrt

[david19m]

6 hours ago, gbusrt said:

i suspect over 50% if the info we all go looking for is planted to get the desired reaction, we are small in number but drive the herd and so we are disproportionally targeted.

 

Yes, a lot of information is fake, some manipulated, other incorrect, most insufficient.There is no way to know what is happening, even if it's really happening. Unfortunately I think that's the nature of information, maybe intuition is the only filter to know if some information is applicable to us, we might never know the veracity of the information, only the effects on us.

I think a good filter to know if the reaction to some events is valid, is to balance the pros and cons that the reaction would have in our lives: 
- stocking certain suplies is good at some extent. After some point it might be harmful.
- strengthen our inmune system is good in any situation
- fear to x or y extent is bad and may cause harm in our personal lives.

Maybe, the only filter to information is the simple aplication to our own lifes, that cause good. Hopefully the preparedness that we take will not be used in this scenario, but at least many of us would learn valuable lesssons that would be useful in the future. There is too much unknown yet.

[jdurand]

From Russia on the 12th

 

 

Edited February 15, 2020 by jdurand

[bzpal]

OOPS! They've been caught!! They may have wanted to use it as a distraction, but they've been found out! Now, will the MSM cover it, or cover it up??

 

https://patriots4truth.org/2020/01/28/corona-virus-is-a-globalist-bioweapon/

[Buzzard]

What is the difference between a "gain of function virus research facility" and a "bioweapons  laboratory"?

 

Answer: The sign at the front gate.

[bzpal]

Coming COVID Commission Is a Gates-Led Cover-Up

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/04/27/covid-commission-gates-led-cover-up.aspx?ui=5508780a3fdb2d1f5e38d90507f73ea5c4b1db7e1a3ad718b5b920fb7c000c45&sd=20210214&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1ReadMore&cid=20210427_HL2&mid=DM868896&rid=1143456982

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Story at-a-glance

• A corporate-funded COVID Commission Planning Group is being set up to create and support an investigative commission like that for 9/11. This is a classic illustration of the fox guarding the henhouse
• The planning group is led by Philip Zelikow, former executive director of the 9/11 Commission and a member of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Development Program Advisory Panel
• Zelikow is also a strategy group member of the Aspen Institute, a technocratic hub that has groomed and mentored executives from around the world about the subtleties of globalization
• The COVID Commission Planning Group includes more than two dozen virologists, public health personas and former government officials, and is backed by four charitable foundations — all of whom have histories revealing them to be part of the technocratic alliance that for years have been plotting and planning for the wealth redistribution and global power grab we’re now experiencing
• These foundations include Schmidt Futures, the Skoll Foundation, Stand Together Foundation (Koch Network) and the Rockefeller Foundation. The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, which co-hosted Event 201, a pandemic preparedness simulation for a “novel coronavirus,” is also involved

 

[jdurand]

They will find that RUSSIA DID IT!  More specifically, Putin cooked it up in his basement lab.

[equanimity]

Amazing how this little thread starts and ends in the same place, even though a year and a quarter went by!

 

Have we been caught in a time warp?  Does this mean we are about to re-enter the past with the last year of experience under our belts, like time travelers from the future?

 

I'm trying to think of what I am doing differently than last year.

 

Here's a subtle change:  last year when this thread started, I was standing in the present looking back.  Today, I stand in the present, but I'm looking forward.  

 

It doesn't look like much has changed, but in fact the change is YUGE!

[turiya]

I hate to sound like a broken record...

But there is the One Thing that sticks out like a neon sign flashing in the dead of night & simply can't be ignored.

 

From the CDC's own statistics, and more specific to the point, the TOTAL DEATHS for [ALL CAUSES] remains the same for 2020 as it had for the 3 previous years - 2017, 2018 & 2019.

 

With that being said, it means that COVID-19 is a fake pandemic totally pushed with the help of the fake news propaganda machine. Means, there is no pandemic! Which then means, there is NO BIOWEAPON that is responsible for so many deaths, because the DEATHS FOR 2020 are no different than the previous years.

 

This was totally made up by the Democrat-leaning Fake News Media, that had help coming from the WHO, the CDC & the NIH.

 

This, then, has strong implications that a small group of well-connected people have conspired to make this happen.  The Tony Fauci emails, in fact, support this. Fauci conspired with Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg & many others most probably connected with EVENT 201. This is an absolute case for TREASON.  PERIOD!!!

 

 

Edited June 8, 2021 by turiya

[SumDumGuy]

11 minutes ago, turiya said:

I hate to sound like a broken record...

But there is the One Thing that sticks out like a neon sign flashing in the dead of night & simpley can't be ignored.

From the CDC's own statistics, and more specific to the point, the TOTAL DEATHS for [ALL CAUSES] remains the same for 2020 as it had for the 3 previous years - 2017, 2018 & 2019.

 

With that being said, it means that COVID-19 is a fake pandemic totally pushed with the help of the fake news propaganda machine. Means, there is no pandemic! Which then means, there is NO BIOWEAPON that is responsible for so many deaths, because the DEATHS FOR 2020 are no different than the previous years.

 

This was totally made up by the Democrat-leaning Fake News Media, that had help coming from the WHO, the CDC & the NIH.

This, then, has strong implications that a small group of well-connected people have conspired to make this happen.  The Tony Fauci emails, in fact, support this. Fauci conspired with Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg & many others most probably connect with EVENT 201. This is an absolute case for TREASON.  PERIOD!!!

 

 

I don't disagree completely.

 

However, there is one minor factor that you may possibly be omitting from your equation. That being the fact that, due to the lock down, people were not out and about spreading the flu/pneumonia for interpersonal contact as much as in previous years. Add to that the fact that what interpersonal contact there was, for the most part, was masked. So, not all things were equal under that comparison. Further, if we were to extrapolate it out, all things considered (lockdown effects), the death toll should have been lower.

 

It is very hard to say apples and oranges are no different.

[turiya]

 

TOTAL U.S. DEATHS [ALL CAUSES]:
->2017 Total Deaths US: 2,813,503 (234,000/month)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db328.htm 
->2018 Total Deaths US: 2,839,205 (237,000/month)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm 
->2019 Total Deaths US: 2,855,000 (238,000/month)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/provisional-tables.htm 
->2020 Total Deaths US (jan - week 9/26): 2,130,000 (236,000/month)
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-Select-Causes/muzy-jte6 
 

Edited June 8, 2021 by turiya

[SumDumGuy]

4 minutes ago, turiya said:

Thank you, I had completely forgotten about the additional added death toll from the nursing homes that wouldn't have happened in an apples to apples comparison.

 

[bwt]

15 minutes ago, Foxx said:

the death toll should have been lower.

all deaths report here is same as before....

 

ICU less usage by 7 percent from previous 5 years.

 

2247 deaths allegedlly for C-19 for 4.4 million people

 

78 percent of the deaths were over 80 years of age

Edited June 8, 2021 by bwt

[Peter]

[plane]

The CDC has never been worth trusting, so their death data is one more question mark. What isn't a question mark is that a serious pandemic that lasted for more than a year would not remotely have played out as this one has. And little of what the governments of the world have been up to smells like a real pandemic. This is a consolidation of money and power.

 

On the bright side, 9/11 showed that cartoon characters are sufficient. The PTB don't actually have to kill people if all they want is more control. Just create a Doctor Evil character in some cave somewhere and say we have to go to war for decades and give up our freedoms in the process. Those who disapprove will be chasing countless dead ends led by agents of the system. The scripts for Covid have been written and seem to be working fairly well. If you hate the CCP, great. If you hate the supposed lack of seriousness coming from Trump and his supporters, great. If you hate the Democrats and leftish parties in the Western world, great, they destroyed the economy even more than the right wanted to. And China can use Covid to do all kinds of unfair and rotten things that they have wanted to do for a long time. For example, pressure people to buy from corporate stores and not farmers' markets.

[turiya]

4 hours ago, Foxx said:

I don't disagree completely.

 

However, there is one minor factor that you may possibly be omitting from your equation. That being the fact that, due to the lock down, people were not out and about spreading the flu/pneumonia for interpersonal contact as much as in previous years. Add to that the fact that what interpersonal contact there was, for the most part, was masked. So, not all things were equal under that comparison. Further, if we were to extrapolate it out, all things considered (lockdown effects), the death toll should have been lower.

 

It is very hard to say apples and oranges are no different.

 

      Locked down States vs Open States

 

 

Edited June 9, 2021 by turiya

[bzpal]

That table is scary.... think what would have happened if the whole country was run by Dems! Totalitarian regimes always mean stress, fear, destruction and death.

[turiya]

18 hours ago, Foxx said:

That being the fact...

 

Is it really?

 

     Source: Oxford Covid-19 Response Tracker

 

"Although these graphs are an imperfect and imprecise representation of the specific circumstances and policies enacted in each state, it is still clear that harsh or forceful government action seems to have no correlation with containing COVID-19 deaths. In many cases, highly disruptive and overly involved governments can worsen the pandemic. For example, in states like New York, over 4,500 COVID-19 patients were forced into nursing homes in an ill-planned attempt to alleviate hospital capacity. 

The Verdict  

There are seven states to serve as counterfactuals to Dr. Fauci’s suggestion that there should be a nationwide implementation of stay at home orders. 

 

All seven states outperformed the majority of the country in both minimizing death as well as protecting their economies. Some of these states even experienced spikes in cases and still managed the disease far better than states with similar caseloads that issued a stay at home order. 

 

There is no definitive evidence to suggest that stay at home orders are effective at addressing COVID-19. Furthermore, the United States experiment with the policy has yielded results that are not favorable to Dr. Fauci’s suggestion regarding the nationwide implementation of stay at home orders."

https://www.aier.org/article/a-closer-look-at-the-states-that-stayed-open/

 

 

Edited June 9, 2021 by turiya

[Greenmeadow]

14 hours ago, turiya said:

 

      Locked down States vs Open States

 

 

 

 

I wonder what the mechanism for this effect is.

 

Dr Zach Bush said early on that our immune system is constantly interacting with others. If we are isolated our immune system declines. Imagine someone on a desert island meeting people for the first time in years. There immune system has not been tested or exercised in a long time. If they meet new people it would make sense that they get sick. First year school teachers often get sick, but then after constant exposure they rarely get sick. One study in Sweden even found that families with children wer more protected from Covid. Maybe because their immune systems had to be more active with kids anyway.

 

Dr Bush also sited a study from before Covid. People who got 7 hugs a day were 40% less likely to get the flu. Did this have to do with being exposed or did the feel good hormones strengthen the immune system. Did isolation effect the immune systems of people in the locked down states? Seniors who do not socialize often have more poor health.

 

Another factor I wonder about is the masks themselves. I saw a video with someone using a vape . He would take a suck, Lower the mask and breath out. The vape aerosols went right through all the masks he tested. So masks did not protect people from aerosols. One study in Belgium found that those with the masks got Covid 1.3% less than those with masks. So virtually no effect on Covid. But mask wearing did increase bacterial infections by keeping moisture and bacteria near your face. Given the high PCR false positive rates mask wearers may have been more sick, more tested and more likely to get a false positive.