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45 minutes ago, jdurand said:

So, the top Dems are leaving and tomorrow T has an announcement.  Should be interesting.

 

I have a strange conspiracy theory mind, that tend to look at all the possibilities no matter how weird or unlikely.  It just occurred to me the top Dems may have wanted to leave the country because something they don't want to be around for is going to happen.  Some possibilities:

 

They are all going to be arrested if they are in the country.  Or:

 

They are afraid of riots breaking out, with political leaders in the sights, so to speak.  Or:

 

DC is going to get hit by a major attack,such as a nuke, poison gas, man-caused tidal wave or EQ.  Or:

 

There will be an Ass-ass-nation attempt, with possible bullets flying.  Or:

 

They just want to keep moving and stay out of DC whenever possible because they know someone is planning one or more of the above, even if they don't know exactly when.  Or:

 

They need to get away from all the surveillance devices to talk over party strategy, although I'm not sure they can get away from them, no matter where they go. 

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40 minutes ago, Greenmeadow said:

You do wonder how some people will survive the cognitive dissonance. People who have been able to trust the authority structures in our society may have to realize that much of what they have been taught, lived with and believed their whole lives are lies. I have a feeling that many will try to try to deflect blame and make excuses for authority just to keep some order in their world view. As much as I have wanted change, I think this slow exposure of problems has had some kindness to it. So people can start to adjust.  These days people are being confronted all the time with people with very different beliefs about shared events.

Stated well.  Presumably, some will never "get it".  Those close to me still can't believe that 911 was anything other than the "official story" - including engineers that should intuitively know better based simply upon basic physics.  I guess we all travel our own trails.  Other stuff posted here in the WBF is still over my head, but obviously very comfortable for others.  Hoping that I keep an open mind and when it is time, I'll understand.

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cowpoke, I am with you ...it is not 'just' a travel trip...and in time we will find out the rest of the story..

too many involved to not have some leaks

 

blankenb, was it Q that said all of us will be shocked..so I am preparing to know what I can know and

go about living life and accepting there's stuff that will really shake me up..listening to Stroppy today

about Michael Cohen (last part of video) (in the q section)...shook me up..

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1 hour ago, equanimity said:

Trump has a franchise! It's got his name all over it, worldwide. He also has three kids in the administration. That's who he's having those counter-strategy meetings with, I'll wager!

 

We do not have to feel sorry for Trump, I'm sure he had 95% of this dialed in from the beginning. For a person like him, it's not a matter of whether, but how.

 

When 90% of media coverage is negative, that is NOT a franchise! And certainly anything he accomplished before is not a POLITICAL franchise for the presidency! He is being attacked from every side!

Since when are you the the great arbitrator for who to feel sorry for?? You never weep for anyone unjustly accused? You show no mercy for someone who is giving everything they've got to do the best they can for the nation, for his family, for the world?

In your heart you know that everyone wants Trump to drain the swamp and make everything right in the world... but no one will admit it out loud! In your heart you know that no career politician will ever do that, so only a Trump can.

 

It's time to stop fighting him and start helping him!!

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14 minutes ago, easy said:

cowpoke, I am with you ...it is not 'just' a travel trip...and in time we will find out the rest of the story..

too many involved to not have some leaks

 

blankenb, was it Q that said all of us will be shocked..so I am preparing to know what I can know and

go about living life and accepting there's stuff that will really shake me up..listening to Stroppy today

about Michael Cohen (last part of video) (in the q section)...shook me up..

I can't listen, please elaborate about what was said? TIA!

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3 minutes ago, bzpal said:

 

When 90% of media coverage is negative, that is NOT a franchise! And certainly anything he accomplished before is not a POLITICAL franchise for the presidency! He is being attacked from every side!

Since when are you the the great arbitrator for who to feel sorry for?? You never weep for anyone unjustly accused? You show no mercy for someone who is giving everything they've got to do the best they can for the nation, for his family, for the world?

In your heart you know that everyone wants Trump to drain the swamp and make everything right in the world... but no one will admit it out loud! In your heart you know that no career politician will ever do that, so only a Trump can.

 

It's time to stop fighting him and start helping him!!

Only Trump and then only by the Grace and Power of God can the swamp be drained - may it happen in the most expeditious manner with great prejudice so that it never has to be done again!

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7 hours ago, blankenb said:

1) The Nancy Pelosi 7 day trip to Europe was in essence Nancy and 6 Angry Democrats going to meet with angry NATO (angry at having to pay their fair share) to plot the demise of @realDonaldTrump . ...


2) Also, it wasn't just 7 angry Democrats. It was their extended families too, 93 of them. We, the People were footing the bill to fly 7 Congressmen and 93 FAMILY MEMBERS around the World.

 

3) Isn't it interesting that Nancy Pelosi had ALL her Children and ALL her Grandchildren booked on that flight?

If I didn't know any better I'd say someone might have been running...

 

 

Certainly not all 93 people were on the bus, but something to be looking for confirmation of...

 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1086271793160019969.html

Wow. Something is up if this is true. And as a taxpayer, it pisses me off that I was going to pay for her whole family’s trip. 

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2 minutes ago, blankenb said:

basically, Cohen likely got beaten to get him to "confess".

 

Hmmmm... arm in a sling and black eye.... I didn't put it together... Banana Republic in our faces... everything they've been doing everywhere else, they are now bold enough to do it at home! Desperate, fighting for their lives... they won't go down easy!

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1 hour ago, Brenda Elfgirl said:

Wow. Something is up if this is true. And as a taxpayer, it pisses me off that I was going to pay for her whole family’s trip. 

 

And... why would the whole family go to Afghanistan, a WAR ZONE?? Something very wrong with this picture! Were they fleeing the country? This is something that needs more scrutiny!

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Bzpal, my dear snapping turtle, it's not about me. It's also not about you.  We are both bystanders at at amazing time in history, trying to figure out what we are watching. Maybe we are using the word franchise differently, but that doesn't have derail the conversation, does it? Nobody's wrong, nobody needs to be punished, we are all here together witnessing something unprecedented.

 

I take the position that Trump is a big boy, and he created this situation because he excels at this kind of fight. He's been playing the long game while allowing the world to think he's an airhead. He's not a victim, nor is he anybody's personal savior. He's doing the job he set out to do, that's my feeling.

 

In response, I'm doing what I can to make myself fine with our President, because that's what we have to do as citizens of this nation. It is a bit cringeworthy that he deliberately makes himself look like an impulsive fool on a regular basis. If I hadn't grown up under this management style, and worked with a few people who share these same peculiarities, I would be flummoxed and paranoid in the kind of panic-driven enviornment this style creates. His "drunken chi kung" (Jackie Chan-style) keeps everybody off balance, which is probably useful for giving his adversaries plenty of rope to hang themselves with.

 

It is impressive the way Trump uses misdirection and mixed messages to invite people to jump to conclusions based on their own mental machinations. He shoots his blunderbuss in every direction at once, and twenty different adversaries go off like sirens, leaking away and tossing a bunch of new assumptions into the wind. Trump couldn't pay for the kind of cover the screamers give him every day!  I'm  gobsmacked to see how credulous, mendacious, and duplicitous the media representation is; it's self-evident that the media are all bought and paid for by Trump's considerable enemies on both sides of the aisle.

 

But it doesn't matter, not one bit, if Trump has, by hook or by crook, herded his adversaries into a steep-walled canyon and induced them to start firing their guns in there. That's an image that has been in my mind for years already due to a  professional experience I once had. My instincts tell me we are hearing the first shots ringing out right now. If he's smart Trump will stay in the background, out of shooting distance, while the melee ensues. Then when it's over he can ride in and take anybody who survives off to jail.  But first they all have to be whipped into a murderous frenzy while boxed in and seething. Then it's tick, tock, till the inevitable happens.

 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, equanimity said:

Bzpal, my dear snapping turtle, it's not about me. It's also not about you.  We are both bystanders at at amazing time in history, trying to figure out what we are watching. Maybe we are using the word franchise differently, but that doesn't have derail the conversation, does it? Nobody's wrong, nobody needs to be punished, we are all here together witnessing something unprecedented.

 

I take the position that Trump is a big boy, and he created this situation because he excels at this kind of fight. He's been playing the long game while allowing the world to think he's an airhead. He's not a victim, nor is he anybody's personal savior. He's doing the job he set out to do, that's my feeling.

 

In response, I'm doing what I can to make myself fine with our President, because that's what we have to do as citizens of this nation. It is a bit cringeworthy that he deliberately makes himself look like an impulsive fool on a regular basis. If I hadn't grown up under this management style, and worked with a few people who share these same peculiarities, I would be flummoxed and paranoid in the kind of panic-driven enviornment this style creates. His "drunken chi kung" (Jackie Chan-style) keeps everybody off balance, which is probably useful for giving his adversaries plenty of rope to hang themselves with.

 

It is impressive the way Trump uses misdirection and mixed messages to invite people to jump to conclusions based on their own mental machinations. He shoots his blunderbuss in every direction at once, and twenty different adversaries go off like sirens, leaking away and tossing a bunch of new assumptions into the wind. Trump couldn't pay for the kind of cover the screamers give him every day!  I'm  gobsmacked to see how credulous, mendacious, and duplicitous the media representation is; it's self-evident that the media are all bought and paid for by Trump's considerable enemies on both sides of the aisle.

 

But it doesn't matter, not one bit, if Trump has, by hook or by crook, herded his adversaries into a steep-walled canyon and induced them to start firing their guns in there. That's an image that has been in my mind for years already due to a  professional experience I once had. My instincts tell me we are hearing the first shots ringing out right now. If he's smart Trump will stay in the background while the melee ensues, and when it's over he'll ride in and take anybody who survives off to jail.  But first they all have to be whipped into a murderous frenzy while boxed in and seething. Then it's tick, tock, till the inevitable happens.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, too bad you have to see it that way, because it doesn't need to be anything like that at all. If more people would be supportive, it could be pretty painless all around. Trump is just a man who wants to see America great again. It once was, as I think most of us will agree. It isn't NOW. Despite your 'confidence' in him, he needs support now more than ever! Are you giving it?

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Did I studder?  

 

All my friends think I'm weird because I'm insufficiently red to please the reds, and insufficiently blue to please the blues. Is that my problem here?

 

I am ambivalent, but I'm also glad we got Trump because Hillary campaigned on war with Russia and I am totally against our whole military distortion.  I would like it to be true that Trump was recruited by the loyal members of the military, the ones who believe the oaths they took to the country.

 

Nevertheless I don't fantasize that the US armed forces, inclusive of the three-letter agencies, are "the good guys" in any sense.  To do what they are trained to do, they have to be ruthless, use every strategy, sacrifice the individual to the mass, and commit all the traditional sins if it's in the line of duty.  Plus it is criminal that over half our national budget goes to support these trained thugs. So that doesn't set well, and this hasn't changed for me for decades, no matter who is President.  In that sense I'm rooting for the president because I'm rooting against the Dark State.

 

I'm as mystical as any patriot about the ideals upon which this nation was founded, but I'm quite convinced we have fallen far away from that ideal due to the sheer mass, momentum, and money involved. To see our government owned by wall street and the corporations  is discouraging in the extreme.

 

AND, I think that for Trump to succeed in what must be done, he will have to pull the temple down upon himself like Samson in the Old Testament.   He'll send the family to Mar-a-Lago and stay at the White House with a skeleton crew, having the time of his life until he finds out "what happens".  Will he be obliterated by infiltrators? will he trick his adversaries into doing just what he needs them to do? Will they tar and feather him and ride him out of town on a rail?  I think he's fully aware of the win/lose stakes of the games he's playing, because they are the product of a long, old, convoluted plan that's been unfolding in his mind for decades. Trump is getting his revenge for enduring a lifetime of being disliked by his family and snubbed by the NY moneyed crowds.  He can't wait for the opportunity to shove a solid-gold ten pound T right up all their snouts!

 

And if he succeeds, more power to him. It couldn't happen to a better man.

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4 hours ago, blankenb said:

 

Expected Assassination this weekend????

 

 

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/donnabrazile

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I hated this tweet when I saw it too. But now I am thinking that Pelosi’s purpose for the trip was to go to NATO and act like she was the POTUS and commander in chief by visiting the troops. WRONG. And the reference to MLK is for Pelosi maybe and not for POTUS. Why try to flee with her whole family overseas?

 

 

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7 hours ago, Brenda Elfgirl said:

And as a taxpayer, it pisses me off that I was going to pay for her whole family’s trip. 

 

Does it piss you off that you have to pay millions every few days for Trump to play golf?

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Donald Trump vs. Barack Obama: Who's Played More Golf Through 2 Years As President?

 

"January 20 marks two years since his inauguration. Over two years in office, that equates to a neat 35 confirmed rounds per year in office. According to CBS News White House correspondent Mark Knoller, Obama played a total of 333 rounds of golf in his eight-year presidency. That averages out to about 41 rounds per year. "

 

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-golf-barack-obama-1297945

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Neo said:

Donald Trump vs. Barack Obama: Who's Played More Golf Through 2 Years As President?

 

"January 20 marks two years since his inauguration. Over two years in office, that equates to a neat 35 confirmed rounds per year in office. According to CBS News White House correspondent Mark Knoller, Obama played a total of 333 rounds of golf in his eight-year presidency. That averages out to about 41 rounds per year. "

 

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-golf-barack-obama-1297945

 

 

 

Facts versus MSM brainwashing and bias. Did someone Bizzfeed themselves?

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Donald Trump
Handicap: 2.8 | Rounds played: 91 | Projected per Year Average: 91


Barack Obama
Handicap: 13 | Rounds played: 333 | Per year Average: 42


Dwight Eisenhower
Handicap: 13-17 | Rounds played: 800 | Per year Average: 100


Woodrow Wilson
Handicap: 25-30  | Rounds played: 1000 | Per year Average: 150

 

 

https://presidentialgolftracker.com/donaldtrump/

 

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7 hours ago, Brenda Elfgirl said:

I hated this tweet when I saw it too. But now I am thinking that Pelosi’s purpose for the trip was to go to NATO and act like she was the POTUS and commander in chief by visiting the troops. WRONG. And the reference to MLK is for Pelosi maybe and not for POTUS. Why try to flee with her whole family overseas?

 

 

 

It appears there is a "congressional perk" that using a military plane to Europe allows them to bring back anything duty free.... she was taking her family shopping!! I hope this blows sky high!

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almost playing golf once a week or so...what's so wrong about that?  it is exercise and a stress reducer for many..

 

my brother in law who is a small business owner with my sister used to start his day that way and it was Good for

him..

how many go to the gym for a workout...and gym's cost money just like golf..

I want dt making good decisions with good health!

 

George Webb talks about diplomatic immunity...where nothing is looked at thus drugs, weapons, people are shipped

in to the US

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