turiya Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 48 minutes ago, George K said: People with AIDS that have passed on bodily fluids have been charged with attempted murder. If you are positive for Covid and you spit in someone's eye, then the DA might be inclined to charge higher than simple assault, depending on whether the Covid was passed on. Yes, I suppose if the officer were to die, then a charge of 3rd degree murder (manslaughter) could be added to the assault. bzpal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzpal Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, George K said: I believe that many of the laws in cities against spitting on the street or sidewalk in the past century were attempts to stop the spread of consumption (tuberculosis) and the great flu. If people are required to wear masks for health reasons, then why not charge someone spitting in a cop's face with a bodily harm charge beyond simple assault?? You need to brush up on the Constitution. You can't pass stupid laws for a 'maybe.' Innocent until proven guilty. How can you charge someone for something that hasn't happened? You're beginning to sound very liberal yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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George K Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 39 minutes ago, bzpal said: You need to brush up on the Constitution. You can't pass stupid laws for a 'maybe.' Innocent until proven guilty. How can you charge someone for something that hasn't happened? You're beginning to sound very liberal yourself. Well you know the local DAs demonstrate lots of leeway on how they charge someone. The charges can be severe, lenient, or even dropped. If it gets to court then the judge has some leeway on the case. And if you do not like the outcome, there is the appeal process. Foxx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzpal Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, George K said: Well you know the local DAs demonstrate lots of leeway on how they charge someone. The charges can be severe, lenient, or even dropped. If it gets to court then the judge has some leeway on the case. And if you do not like the outcome, there is the appeal process. I respectfully disagree. This is the whole problem with liberals. They think they can dole out their version of 'justice' and don't make the rules apply fairly to everyone. You can especially see it in how the 'Russia collusion' investigation and prosecutions were handled vs. the Hunter Biden corruption (non)investigation and lack of prosecution. Plus total media blackout. Can you imagine the arrests if there was a real 'white supremacist' group causing the violence and destruction that BLM and Antifa have? It would be another Waco against them! Yet the liberal groups are getting off without arrests or getting their bail paid for by billionaires. You want someone to be charged for spitting at a cop, while the liberal politicians are letting violent criminal inmates loose on the streets again? AlanCMoore, Christine and Captain 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 2 hours ago, bzpal said: I respectfully disagree. This is the whole problem with liberals. They think they can dole out their version of 'justice' and don't make the rules apply fairly to everyone. You can especially see it in how the 'Russia collusion' investigation and prosecutions were handled vs. the Hunter Biden corruption (non)investigation and lack of prosecution. Plus total media blackout. Can you imagine the arrests if there was a real 'white supremacist' group causing the violence and destruction that BLM and Antifa have? It would be another Waco against them! Yet the liberal groups are getting off without arrests or getting their bail paid for by billionaires. You want someone to be charged for spitting at a cop, while the liberal politicians are letting violent criminal inmates loose on the streets again? We are not disagreeing. Yes, the left lets the rioters off the hook calling them peaceful demonstrators and hammers conservative rally and parade goers flying the US flag and calling them racists. Same with Hunter Biden versus all the conservatives who were prosecuted for their involvement with Ukraine. This is the leeway I see the DAs applying. Law enforcement presents the evidence to the DA who determines if the evidence is strong enough or if the case is worth spending taxpayer money on. And the judges apply their own bias. DoJ drops the case against Gen Flynn and then the Judge decides to be both judge and prosecutor. Yes, I would like to see some sterner prosecution for spitting in anyone's face; there is a health component beyond simple assault. As for the police, Trump has called for sterner laws against those who attack the police. Perhaps adding them as a separate class under Hate Crimes. Yet as long as liberals are appointed as DAs and judges, they will interpret the law differently for liberals and conservatives. If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all. Foxx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzpal Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, George K said: We are not disagreeing. Yes, the left lets the rioters off the hook calling them peaceful demonstrators and hammers conservative rally and parade goers flying the US flag and calling them racists. Same with Hunter Biden versus all the conservatives who were prosecuted for their involvement with Ukraine. This is the leeway I see the DAs applying. Law enforcement presents the evidence to the DA who determines if the evidence is strong enough or if the case is worth spending taxpayer money on. And the judges apply their own bias. DoJ drops the case against Gen Flynn and then the Judge decides to be both judge and prosecutor. Yes, I would like to see some sterner prosecution for spitting in anyone's face; there is a health component beyond simple assault. As for the police, Trump has called for sterner laws against those who attack the police. Perhaps adding them as a separate class under Hate Crimes. Yet as long as liberals are appointed as DAs and judges, they will interpret the law differently for liberals and conservatives. If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all. You're exactly right, and that's why it's imperative to restore Constitutional law, and stop letting the libtards do things any which way they want to, regardless of how illegal it is. Dirty cops and DAs make plea bargains to turn criminals into snitches/informants/terrorists, alphabet agencies do whatever to whomever they want, including blackmail and murder, and military contractors and bureaucrats are sucking the taxpayers dry. That's why they all hate Trump, he is putting a stop to it if given a chance. IMO, if someone spits in your face, you have the right to beat the crap out of them without a need for a law. Why can't people take care of some of their own problems without getting 'the state' involved? I'm a firm believer in Common Law, live and let live, but also 'frontier justice' when it's called for. If someone had been taking out the crazies when they first got started, there wouldn't be so many of them now. It's like a den of vipers, that if you don't take them out, they will take you out. It's not a 'maybe' it's them or you. Christine and easy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Psychic Louise Jones has put out an alert. Tomorrow Monday is the start of the Great Awakening!! Tuesday she will put out an extended reading on YouTube. Donald J Trump will win a second term as president. Joe Biden will apologize. Foxx, LP and easy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, bzpal said: You need to brush up on the Constitution. You can't pass stupid laws for a 'maybe.' Innocent until proven guilty. How can you charge someone for something that hasn't happened? You're beginning to sound very liberal yourself. Interesting thought about the Constitution. What do you suppose that Trump meant by these tweets? UPDATE: Most likely photoshopped. Did a search for @realdonaldtrump 14th amendment US Constitution and this did not come up whatsoever. And the date stamp is 19 Sept. 18 Usually they appear like: 9:43 AM · Sep 29, 2019·Twitter Web App So, this may not be an actual Tweet from Trump. On the other hand, it doesn't mean that the content is not accurate. Edited November 8, 2020 by Peter bzpal and Mulder 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 oh my that's a first for a sitting president to allude to the fact that citizens are nothing more than considered dead ,persons are nothing more than a legal fiction and a resource to be traded as the corporation sees fit , If he opens up this rabbit hole the removal of the yellow boarder around all flags in most western countries may be his ultimate aim . I am sure glad i have my long form birth certificate bzpal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 When they talk about "dead" voters, it doesn't get much more in your face than that. neil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzpal Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, Peter said: Interesting thought about the Constitution. What do you suppose that Trump meant by these tweets? I think he's a couple steps ahead of what we thought, and things might get even more interesting! neil, easy and Peter 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Peter said: When they talk about "dead" voters, it doesn't get much more in your face than that. now that you mention it the irony is incredible , i think i will listen to some grateful dead and have a beer MWR and bzpal 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulder Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 This is the fog of war we are seeing. This kind of propaganda everywhere makes the truth very difficult to discern. bzpal and easy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 true it may be the fog of war mulder , but have you ever heard of a sitting president actually state that the legal system currently used is out and out fraud across the board, not just voting issues but across the board all of it. imo that is what he is alluding to. and that my friend is huge ,If this grows people will be in mental shock trying to decipher latin ,pig latin ,legal vrs private and trust ,living man or woman vrs a citizen ,the straw man from the wizard of oz may be revived not to mention the holy cee and all that crap control over humans for millennia easy and bzpal 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 7 hours ago, bzpal said: IMO, if someone spits in your face, you have the right to beat the crap out of them without a need for a law. Why can't people take care of some of their own problems without getting 'the state' involved? I'm a firm believer in Common Law, live and let live, but also 'frontier justice' when it's called for. If someone had been taking out the crazies when they first got started, there wouldn't be so many of them now. It's like a den of vipers, that if you don't take them out, they will take you out. It's not a 'maybe' it's them or you. Except that in today's climate, a cop cannot react to being attacked by applying "frontier justice" because he will be charged, suspended, fired or in some way have community policing guidelines used as punishment against them. That is why I am reading about so many cops retiring or quiting. bzpal and Foxx 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Peter said: Interesting thought about the Constitution. What do you suppose that Trump meant by these tweets? UPDATE: Most likely photoshopped. Did a search for @realdonaldtrump 14th amendment US Constitution and this did not come up whatsoever. And the date stamp is 19 Sept. 18 Usually they appear like: 9:43 AM · Sep 29, 2019·Twitter Web App So, this may not be an actual Tweet from Trump. On the other hand, it doesn't mean that the content is not accurate. Maybe this is referring to Trump's comments about getting rid of birthright citizenship as covered by the 14th amendment. https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/30/politics/donald-trump-ending-birthright-citizenship/index.html bzpal and Foxx 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Mulder said: This is the fog of war we are seeing. This kind of propaganda everywhere makes the truth very difficult to discern. What we are seeing is one sided Democrat propaganda. The main stream media is an arm of the Democrat Party and they are assisting the Biden puppet masters in their campaign to convince the American people that the election battle is over, the MSM called it, so let's not waste time on recounts. After all Biden needs to stand up his transition team. Trump is fighting back against this Democrat propaganda with legal actions, but don't look for any positive news coverage. "All warfare is based on deception” -- Sun Tzu Christine, Foxx and bzpal 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Hasn't Natanyahu jumped the gun a bit on this??? Just because the MSM "called" the election for Biden does not make it so. ################## Benjamin Netanyahu @netanyahu Congratulations @JoeBiden and @KamalaHarris. Joe, we’ve had a long & warm personal relationship for nearly 40 years, and I know you as a great friend of Israel. I look forward to working with both of you to further strengthen the special alliance between the U.S. and Israel. 12:03 AM · Nov 8, 2020·Twitter Foxx and easy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzpal Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Jared probably told him to do it, so he could talk Trump into conceding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, bzpal said: Jared probably told him to do it, so he could talk Trump into conceding. Remember when Jared and Ivanka said they went to vote for The Donald in the Republican primary in 2016 but could not because they were not registered? What they failed to clearly explain is, they were registered Democrats so of course could not vote in the Republican primary. bzpal and easy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plane Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, George K said: Remember when Jared and Ivanka said they went to vote for The Donald in the Republican primary in 2016 but could not because they were not registered? What they failed to clearly explain is, they were registered Democrats so of course could not vote in the Republican primary. Wasn't it Obama who put his half-brother in charge of half of his administration, even though he was a rabid right-winger? All his supporters were furious if they had any awareness of the situation, of course, but Obama kept saying "Where are they gonna go?" And in his second term, it got really bad, with those not in the Obama cult amazed at how half of what got done was the exact opposite of what they thought they were getting. easy and bzpal 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzpal Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 This is what authoritarian, marxist liberals really want to do to the rest of us, too, and WILL do if they are given the chance! Liberal Lunatics Gather to Beat Effigy of President Donald Trump With a Baseball Bat in Hollywood https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/watch-liberal-lunatics-gather-beat-effigy-president-donald-trump-baseball-bat-hollywood/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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