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I don't remember seeing it but Brexit mentioned at all?

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andromeda

Canada Life, which is a insurance company with RED and blue logo, suspended the trading of their property funds yesterday.

 

Please note they are not insolvent. The suspension is because there is no liquidity in property funds.

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jdurand

20 years from now they'll STILL be voting on a deal...

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simple simon
Posted (edited)
34 minutes ago, blankenb said:

Brexit chaos: UK MPs reject Theresa May’s deal AGAIN (VIDEOS)

 

https://www.rt.com/uk/453655-may-brexit-deal-rejected/

Its a heavy defeat - its obvious that trying to leave the EU whilst staying inside the customs zone is not going to work.

 

There is much frustration here in the UK, because things seems to have gone badly wrong. People are fed up. Peeved, even angry.

 

I am however still not sure where my anger should be placed.

 

Incompetent British negotiators?

Intransigent EU negotiators?

Did we try to get the wrong deal?

Was there someone trying to stifle negotiations?

 

Something else?

 

 

Edited by simple simon

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simple simon

(Time for anger!)


Eurostar Brexit chaos: French customs staff ‘humiliated’ British student at Gare Du Nord in Paris

 

This was during bloody-minded 'industrial action' which used train passengers travelling from France to England as pawns.

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/eurostar-brexit-chaos-french-customs-staff-humiliated-london-student-a4089636.html

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bzpal

This should be a HUGE wakeup call for all of us about the globalists..... once they think they have you in their grasp, they will never let you go!!  All their lies about the benefits and merits are just BS!

There must be some way to stop them, to stop the lies, stop the FFs, stop the pedovores, slimebags, swamp creatures.... Brexit is the beginning of the end... who will win?  Where else is there to go, unless you believe in FE?

 

If FE is true, then none of this BS matters anymore!

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Peter
Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, jdurand said:

20 years from now they'll STILL be voting on a deal...

Yup, SOP, they will continue to "re-vote" until they get the results they planned on.

 

Maybe someone will be astute enough to introduce legislation that prevents / stays a "re-vote" for 10 years after it is "voted" on. - Of course, this is only a good solution if they keep voting to leave.

Edited by Peter

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i need the Zep
8 hours ago, simple simon said:

Its a heavy defeat - its obvious that trying to leave the EU whilst staying inside the customs zone is not going to work.

 

There is much frustration here in the UK, because things seems to have gone badly wrong. People are fed up. Peeved, even angry.

 

I am however still not sure where my anger should be placed.

 

Incompetent British negotiators?

Intransigent EU negotiators?

Did we try to get the wrong deal?

Was there someone trying to stifle negotiations?

 

Something else?

 

 

 

THe vote was to leave the EU, not leave  the EU ( only on conditional of a deal) ie with one arm tied behind our backs  

 

Leave means leave

 

we will get better "deals" when we are out of the EU

 

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simple simon
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2 hours ago, i need the Zep said:

 

THe vote was to leave the EU, not leave  the EU ( only on conditional of a deal) ie with one arm tied behind our backs  

 

Leave means leave

 

we will get better "deals" when we are out of the EU

 

 

Yes we will free to get (hopefully better^) deals after we leave, and this includes a proper long-lasting trade deal with the EU, *if* they will allow it.

 

They might not want this however, in case other member nations want the same for themselves!

 

My thoughts also turn to the need to protect multi-national businesses such as Airbus.

 

^Japan has already said that it wont offer us as good a deal as its agreed with the EU and we do NOT want the deal with the USA to include chlorine-washed chicken .... we want to protect our food safety standards where they are higher than those of the USA.

 

Edited by simple simon

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Marti

Those of you more in the know, do I read correctly that this vote means there will be a hard Brexit, i.e., no deal with the EU but rather just "goodbye"??

 

And that's a good thing because it leaves the UK free to do what it wants?

 

P. S. I totally understand why you don't want any of our chlorine-washed chicken!! I don't either and have to look hard to find the natural stuff.

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SPace

Parliament will vote today for or against the hard exit.

 

Another vote tomorrow would be for an extension of the deadline, if a hard exit is defeated.

 

The EU would have to approve an extension.

 

Therefore, they could have a hard exit even if they don't want one.

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Peter

They will vote until they get the results they want. That's how they roll.

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gbusrt
Posted (edited)

Me i think the vested interest in the UK and the vested interest in the EU had a falling out, it was decided on the UK side to leave.

Politics is just the visual pacifier need to keep the useless eaters happy and stop revolting, i suspect this decision was made long ago 1990ish and everything we are seeing is just a show for the illusion of democracy....

 

 

 

The UK press tend to be "pro remain", or employ "pro remain" or the editors are "pro remain" or are directed by "pro remain" owners

most of these people wanted to remain (would never have guessed).

The population is split 55/45 ish "exit". The 45ish that want to remain, their public 'voice' is represented in the MSN over here (UK)

The MSN are making so much noise.. Fear/plea bargaining/stamping of feet  ... etc, they just can see anything but remain and will never show any other option as it not palatable to them.

Add to this that a remainer was selected to negotiate the leave details  (PM May) and this look crazy, as every deal seemed to link us more closely to the EU with less say in how we are governed.

The 'hidden' plan was a 'no deal' exit and then the UK vested interest will get the terms it wants/need to survive as rulers/leaders

 

The EU needs to be seen as hard on this or their Unity is threatened (Italy Ireland Spain Greece and Holland have all expressed interests in different terms of union), the UK leaving from the EU standpoint must be shown as a bad decision. cant have the members thinking they can make decisions that are not sanctioned by the managers, things could fall apart

As bureaucrats not politicians are making the decisions EU side, little or no compromise was offered or though about on either side on how this will affect the useless eaters/taxpayers.

the break will affect both parties (all relationship take a hit when the unity is shown to be a fiction), but in the long run both will benefit. we at the fighting over the pets (dogs and cats), it look ugly to all but just the way thing resolve over time

 

my unasked for 2c

 

Edited by gbusrt

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jdurand

Note that after parliament votes for an extension (as planned), 100% of the EU countries have to agree to it.  One NO vote vetos an extension.

 

May really REALLY doesn't want to leave the EU, I guess the hope at this point is either endless delays or they rejoin after leaving.  Expect her to make the UK have as much of a hard time as possible after leaving...poisoned trade deals, etc.

 

Oh, and the EU hasn't yet voted on that "deal" that she got from them, so even it isn't written in stone.

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gbusrt

friend found this

"great comment on dodgy paper site : Sorry to break it to 'Bild Newspaper' but there's no crisis in Britain. About 540 people in the House of Commons are having trouble adjusting to the new reality, but unlike Germany the economy is growing and people are confident and looking forward to leaving the eu in 16 days. Meanwhile Barnier looks shell-shocked, Verhofstadt is having another tantrum, France riots every weekend, Germany is in a technical recession, Italy is looking to quit the eu, Deutsche bank is close to collapse, Ireland is having a wee temper tantrum all of their own (bless) and the UK and rest of the world are looking on, laughing at the crumbling eu and its inability to agree what should have been a simple withdrawal agreement with its largest export market. Only now it seems has the magnitude of Barnier's failure hit home."

interesting viewpoint

ps all msn = dodgy paper's

 

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simple simon

 

btw, there are two threads about Brexit...

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simple simon
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, gbusrt said:

friend found this

"great comment on dodgy paper site : Sorry to break it to 'Bild Newspaper' but there's no crisis in Britain. About 540 people in the House of Commons are having trouble adjusting to the new reality, but unlike Germany the economy is growing and people are confident and looking forward to leaving the eu in 16 days. Meanwhile Barnier looks shell-shocked, Verhofstadt is having another tantrum, France riots every weekend, Germany is in a technical recession, Italy is looking to quit the eu, Deutsche bank is close to collapse, Ireland is having a wee temper tantrum all of their own (bless) and the UK and rest of the world are looking on, laughing at the crumbling eu and its inability to agree what should have been a simple withdrawal agreement with its largest export market. Only now it seems has the magnitude of Barnier's failure hit home."

interesting viewpoint

ps all msn = dodgy paper's

 

 If the EU wants even some of the 39 billion Euros that it says the UK owes it, then it had better come to an amicable deal. 

 

Otherwise the EU itself will be dire financial trouble.

Edited by simple simon

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