jdurand Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 I thought it would be good to make a thread here for general ideas towards prepping. This could be for earthquake, power failures, anything that could make life easier for you and your family if/when something bad happens. I'll start off with a post showing what you can cook in November in a solar oven. Yes, cooking with NO electricity, propane, or anything other than the sun. Truly "nukking" your food. Today we had some sun, so into a 3 qt pan we put: 1 cup of wild rice 1 tsp chicken bouillon granules sprinkle of dry granulated garlic over rice 1/4 cup chopped scallions 1-1/2 cups of filtered water 1 bay leaf in center 2.4 pound pork loin roast (trim off 1/3 of fat) pork is centered on top of rice. Cover pot, put in Sun Oven, leave in sun for 2-3 hours (all the sun we had today) Strain off liquid, reduce to make sauce. Here's what came out: [ATTACH=CONFIG]18520[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]18521[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]18523[/ATTACH]
equanimity Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 I will add to the above excellent advise the idea that if you are intending to heat with wood during times when the power is out, then it is necessary that your wood stove have one or, even better, two flat surfaces for pots of food and water to safely sit and cook. Decorative or primitive wood stoves with no cooking surfaces are useless even if they are free. It is also necessary to have sturdy vessels, utensils, and related equipment on hand and fully tested in advance. That thin aluminum pan with the teflon lining, plastic handles and glass lid might not survive a week of cooking in the rough.
jdurand Posted November 12, 2015 Author Posted November 12, 2015 Oh yes, get a WAPI. That's a cheap, WAter Pasteurization Indicator. You can find these from several vendors, some hang from a string or wire, the one I have is mounted on the bottom of a float and just bobs around in the pot. The idea is heating water to boiling wastes a lot of precious fuel if you don't have much, you can make water safe to drink at a much lower temperature. The WAPI is suspended in or floats on the water and clearly shows when the water is hot enough and been that hot for around 6 minutes. Works with any heat source. No batteries, reusable for many years, no filters to change.
Nomadic Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 I'm looking at this wood stove. My cabin is small and this little stove should be just perfect. It is $200 with free shipping and comes with 10 feet of nesting stove pipe. Huge cooking area! You can get a water tank that hangs on the side for 3 gallons of hot water. Add a collapsible Coleman oven and who needs utilities? http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-CS14-Cylinder-shelves/dp/B002G55XXQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8 Water tank http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-Cylinder-Stove-Accessory/dp/B0044G7B6M/ref=pd_bxgy_86_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0GW78DMHW5NZ023PQ2GA Oven http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000016462-Camp-Oven/dp/B0009PURJA/ref=pd_sim_86_6?ie=UTF8&dpID=41qOyhYDuQL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0GW78DMHW5NZ023PQ2GA Sweet setup for about $315.
Buzzard Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 I'm looking at this wood stove. My cabin is small and this little stove should be just perfect. It is $200 with free shipping and comes with 10 feet of nesting stove pipe. Huge cooking area! You can get a water tank that hangs on the side for 3 gallons of hot water. Add a collapsible Coleman oven and who needs utilities? http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-CS14-Cylinder-shelves/dp/B002G55XXQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8 Water tank http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-Cylinder-Stove-Accessory/dp/B0044G7B6M/ref=pd_bxgy_86_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0GW78DMHW5NZ023PQ2GA Oven http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000016462-Camp-Oven/dp/B0009PURJA/ref=pd_sim_86_6?ie=UTF8&dpID=41qOyhYDuQL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0GW78DMHW5NZ023PQ2GA Sweet setup for about $315. It looks like it will all work great, and it is priced right. But, ash removal looks a little problematic. Stoves with ash pans cost more, but you only buy the stove once. Ashes, on the other had, have to be removed everyday.
siyotanka Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Oh yes, get a WAPI. That's a cheap, WAter Pasteurization Indicator. You can find these from several vendors, some hang from a string or wire, the one I have is mounted on the bottom of a float and just bobs around in the pot. The idea is heating water to boiling wastes a lot of precious fuel if you don't have much, you can make water safe to drink at a much lower temperature. The WAPI is suspended in or floats on the water and clearly shows when the water is hot enough and been that hot for around 6 minutes. Works with any heat source. No batteries, reusable for many years, no filters to change. Got 5....
mkb Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 did you see this one? $59 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-Military-Steel-Camping-Wood-Stove-for-Camp-Cooking-or-as-Tent-Heater-/381260459738?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368 also on Walmart.com http://www.walmart.com/ip/Portable-Military-Camping-Steel-Wood-Stove-Tent-Heater-for-Fishing-Camp-Cooking/29415860?sourceid=csesh01ccd506ba6fee4be2ba44b902eb9647cf&wmlspartner=shoppingcom&affcmpid=394660367&tmode=0000&bcfg=6f9a68fa6b9ad349177a1492f6232963&veh=cse&affjs=1&affwt=popupBlank there are a couple of reviews on youtube, this is one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsH-mXXhFxs
cobalt moon Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Check out 4 Dog stoves they are really well built. On some of the cheap stoves they warp easily. You might save in the beginning but if it doesn't last you end up buying another and safety is a factor due to the fact that usually you are not close to a fire dept. I have seen tents and tipis go up really fast even with lots of people hauling water not much was saved.
1111 Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 A wood burning cook stove generates smoke and the smell of food cooking. Low profile needed!
cobalt moon Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 A thermal cooker pot will be good for you to save fuel as well. Just heat the pot and take off the stove and put in the insulated pot that doesn't take electricity. Will cook real slow all day and you don't have to watch it. Works great for me as I get sidetracked easily so I don't have to worry about burning dinner. lol. I used ours a lot when we had to take my daughter to Salt Lake to the Dr put the food in before we left and ate it at the motel when we got there which was always late and after restaurant were closed. Great for camping, trips and home love it.
jdurand Posted November 13, 2015 Author Posted November 13, 2015 Depending on where you live, there may be restrictions on the stove you can get. In California here, you have to get the super low emissions ones and they encourage people to turn in other people burning on no-burn days (all major holidays and any time it gets really cold). We got the solar oven both for low profile cooking (barely smell any food a few feet away) and it's a lot easier than cooking on wood. But, we do have the wood for heating, will be lighting today's fire as soon as my wife is done cleaning out the ash (I tend the fire, she tends the ash).
jdurand Posted November 13, 2015 Author Posted November 13, 2015 Got 5.... You must go through a lot of water!
mlok Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 I'm looking at this wood stove. My cabin is small and this little stove should be just perfect. It is $200 with free shipping and comes with 10 feet of nesting stove pipe. Huge cooking area! You can get a water tank that hangs on the side for 3 gallons of hot water. Add a collapsible Coleman oven and who needs utilities? http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-CS14-Cylinder-shelves/dp/B002G55XXQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8 Water tank http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-Cylinder-Stove-Accessory/dp/B0044G7B6M/ref=pd_bxgy_86_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0GW78DMHW5NZ023PQ2GA Oven http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000016462-Camp-Oven/dp/B0009PURJA/ref=pd_sim_86_6?ie=UTF8&dpID=41qOyhYDuQL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0GW78DMHW5NZ023PQ2GA Sweet setup for about $315. I was looking into getting something like this a couple of days ago! I live in a small one bedroom cottage (aka former garage) on my mom's property. It has a fireplace which she says heats it up just fine. The problem is her house, as they only have electric heat. They want to eventually install a wood stove but certified ones are expensive. I thought getting a cheap portable one that can be quickly installed during a prolonged power outage would be awesome until they bought a "real" one. It would also save me from having them plus 6 cats move into the cottage. I recently acquired my own buttload of cats, so I'm already swimming in catness. Unfortunately we live in Washington and none of the tent stoves I looked at were able to be shipped here. So instead, I'm thinking of either 1) getting another solar panel to operate a small electric heater that they can use to heat one room or 2) stocking up on propane for a Mr. Buddy type heater. I have a small one for a tent, it might not work that well for a larger room. I feel like I've gone backward in my preparedness. I had everything figured out when I lived in Peterborough (how I would heat, where I'd get water, etc), but now that I'm in Yakima I have different issues or have to solve them in alternative ways. Also, I have to prepare not just for myself but for my mom and her boyfriend. They aren't prepared at all. That's three times the amount of food and water (technically more, he's a big guy). Guns are more of an issue here too. Based on all the gunfire we here, everyone around us is armed. Everyone but us. I'm taking a training class this weekend. I'll definitely have to look in to a solar oven. I thought they were mainly for making bread.
Nomadic Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 I'll bet you're right about those ashes Buzzard, hadn't thought about that. @mkb I've talked myself out of buying that stove a dozen times. Thing is that once you remove the old paint, put on new hinges and a new handle, most people are saying that it is a pretty good little stove. Apparently the cylinder design resists warping (got that from a description so... fwiw). Comments have included things like "looks like it was welded in high school shop class". Do the above modifications (no need for welding), seal it up a bit, put some sand in the bottom and it is probably a good emergency heat source. Non-standard pipe size so you could use car exhaust pipe or people have made extra chimney sections out of the "heating tubes" on the sides. Of course then your racks don't lay flat but I don't think the stove is great for cooking anyway since the pot doesn't contact the top of the cylinder directly. Still if you had to have heat and weren't worried about someone smelling your smoke it might be a good deal. Besides it looks like the ash will drop right out of the front. Great tip on the thermal cooker cm. I've used a cooler before. Get the pot of food boiling good and hard and wrap it in a towel, close it up in the cooler (with maybe another towel wrapped around) and you've got an instant "hay box". Saves energy and human attention.
jdurand Posted November 13, 2015 Author Posted November 13, 2015 You can buy haybox cookers, we have one from some time ago. Double wall, vacuum insulated. Came with a pot that just fits. Bring the food up to boil, put in the insulated box and latch lid. Later that day it's done cooking and still quite warm. We also have a couple of insulated rice bowls from China. Stainless steel, double wall, vacuum insulated. Cheap and keeps your food warm in a cold house.
jdurand Posted December 8, 2015 Author Posted December 8, 2015 We had gotten some insulated stainless steel bowls with the thought these would be useful if we have to eat when it's really cold. Well, our house heater died a week ago so while we've been keeping it reasonably warm with our wood stove, we broke out the bowls. The work really great! Even if left sitting in a cold room for a while, the food is still hot. One minor problem is they float when you go to wash them. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hight-Quality-a-pair-2pcs-of-18cm-stainless-steel-bowl-double-layer-insulated-bowl-child-anti/808916944.html
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