6/14/21 video

[bartp401]

The 6/14 video was the first time that I partially disagreed with Clif.

He may be an atheist.

Everyone has a right to their beliefs.

I am a Christian.  I believe Aliens are fallen angels.  They came down to Earth and they had sex with women.  They polluted the human bloodline.  God wiped everyone out with the flood short of Noah and members of his family.

The alien card is being used by TPTB to try to hold on to control.

I believe what Clif says most of the time.  The 6/14 video start felt a bit off.  He got back on course (my opinion) towards the middle.

He may feel that my beliefs are dogma.  We have hope and faith through Jesus Christ to save our soul.

Repent before it is to late and accept Jesus Christ into your life.

[VILLAGE IDIOT]

3 minutes ago, bartp401 said:

Jesus Christ to save our soul.

Repent before it is to late and accept Jesus Christ into your life.

is it OK just to have a Deep  Belief in   GOD ..  

OR AM I DOOMED TO HELL LIKE a half/naked  native 

  deep in the heart  of the Amazon rain forest ..?

( i don't buy the carrot on the stick story he is comin back soon ) not sure i even buy the Crucifixion story ..

  but  Santa Claws sure .. that  is the best thing about that guys birthday...  )

another question i'm puzzled about .. is not the cross a symbol of death and suffering ..??  why is it in all theses buildings 

  supposedly built for love and peace  ?

[Greenmeadow]

Welcome.

 

Clif has attracted intelligent, critical, thinkers. So no one takes 100% of what he says as gospel. But he does provide some good questions and things to think about. 

 

He may be an atheist but he has said number of times that "Universe favors humans"  That speaks to a higher organizing force in my mind. 

 

Our ancient history is probably a lot missing. I am not sure if the truths will ever come out. But it sure will be interesting what comes out about aliens in our past.

[Romans828IsTrue]

@bartp401 Understand that this forum is a collection of souls each involved in their own walk through this life. We have long ago adopted a policy of not attempting to overtly proselytize (I hate that word) our beliefs. We share many common beliefs and generally enjoy good camaraderie together. Please accept my thoughts here as one who has been down that road and survived. Enjoy it here and observe to see what I'm saying. Good to have you, brother!

 

edit to add: I must say, however, after seeing the video, that there are many times my worldview has differed from Clif in regard to our beginnings, etc. He does seem to get a bit off in the weeds early on in the video, imho too. It has often seemed as though he has attempted to fit a worldview I hold into a more generic secular worldview for himself. Like I said we are all on our individual journeys down the path of this life and each travels at their own pace. I've often found that by allowing for a generalized look at the semantics he used that I could fit what he what saying into my biblical worldview. How often in life do we see many different words or phrases that basically are describing the same subject? Make no mistake, however, I AM a reborn Christ-follower and make no apologies for it.

Edited June 15, 2021 by Romans828IsTrue

[diver]

2 hours ago, bartp401 said:

The 6/14 video was the first time that I partially disagreed with Clif.

He may be an atheist.

Everyone has a right to their beliefs.

I am a Christian.  I believe Aliens are fallen angels.  They came down to Earth and they had sex with women.  They polluted the human bloodline.  God wiped everyone out with the flood short of Noah and members of his family.

The alien card is being used by TPTB to try to hold on to control.

I believe what Clif says most of the time.  The 6/14 video start felt a bit off.  He got back on course (my opinion) towards the middle.

He may feel that my beliefs are dogma.  We have hope and faith through Jesus Christ to save our soul.

Repent before it is to late and accept Jesus Christ into your life.

Right there with you, Bart, except it's always best to remember that our God judges hearts and none of us knows any other heart and the factors that each of us weigh as we chose eternity with or without our Creator. God never condemns.  Each soul makes that call on the light of Perfect Truth.  We can't assume anything about Clif's final choice, only that he's mislead in his opinions expressed in the first portion of today's video.

[towlie]

2 hours ago, Crazy Charlie said:

another question i'm puzzled about .. is not the cross a symbol of death and suffering ..?? 

 

"Still have round them neck a wear murder symbol
The cross was the sign of murder and invasion
Ina the valley of Saddam ina the ruins of Babylon
Cush conquer earth ina four direction"

 

Midnite - Rastaman Stand
 

 

Edited June 15, 2021 by towelie

[Odinson]

God or no God, people can be sheep, shepherds, and wolves.  You see it at all times.  Speaking biologically, not theologically, I can think of no time we know of, without some shepherds who earned their status through merit and not linage.

 

So the human slave 'experiment' failed (the appearance of unwanted shepherds) before history started or...

 

or... there is no design at all, different advantages were presented to leaders, followers and predators.   Binary thinking being the mark of the follower and perhaps the predator.

 

Interesting to think about, but incorrect IMO.

[Brenda Elfgirl]

I’m surprised Clif didn’t talk about the word “namaste”, which supposedly translates into “I bow to the divine within you”.

 

Humanity as a slave species theory is so old, so pre-millennium. The leading edge woowoo thought says we agreed to all of this at a soul’s level, to move our soul to ascend to the next level. And instead of earth as a prison planet of slave species, the earth is a training ground for the soul to learn to master limitations. We reincarnate on earth and forget everything we are, all our other lives, and place the greatest limitations on ourselves. On earth, you plunge yourself into the darkness to see if you can bring yourself back to the light, remember everything you are, and as some Hindus have termed it “achieve realization of your true self.”  

[Brenda Elfgirl]

11 minutes ago, Brenda Elfgirl said:

I’m surprised Clif didn’t talk about the word “namaste”, which supposedly translates into “I bow to the divine within you”.

 

Humanity as a slave species theory is so old, so pre-millennium. The leading edge woowoo thought says we agreed to all of this at a soul’s level, to move our soul to ascend to the next level. And instead of earth as a prison planet of slave species, the earth is a training ground for the soul to learn to master limitations. We reincarnate on earth and forget everything we are, all our other lives, and place the greatest limitations on ourselves. On earth, you plunge yourself into the darkness to see if you can bring yourself back to the light, remember everything you are, and as some Hindus have termed it “achieve realization of your true self.”  

My post reminded me of Q posts saying “we forgot how to play, we forgot our constitution, we forgot the govt works for us and we don’t work for the govt - we are the govt’s employers, we are not the victims that they want us to think we are, we have more power if we stay united and don’t let them divide us.”

[Odinson]

6 hours ago, Odinson said:

God or no God, people can be sheep, shepherds, and wolves.  You see it at all times.  Speaking biologically, not theologically, I can think of no time we know of, without some shepherds who earned their status through merit and not linage.

 

So the human slave 'experiment' failed (the appearance of unwanted shepherds) before history started or...

 

or... there is no design at all, different advantages were presented to leaders, followers and predators.   Binary thinking being the mark of the follower and perhaps the predator.

 

Interesting to think about, but incorrect IMO.

BTW my argument seems to be broken if history is shown to be pervasively manipulated, but... why didn't they edit the shepards out?  Some of them succeeded, wildly.  With lasting effect.

[jdurand]

12 hours ago, Brenda Elfgirl said:

I’m surprised Clif didn’t talk about the word “namaste”, which supposedly translates into “I bow to the divine within you”.

 

Humanity as a slave species theory is so old, so pre-millennium. The leading edge woowoo thought says we agreed to all of this at a soul’s level, to move our soul to ascend to the next level. And instead of earth as a prison planet of slave species, the earth is a training ground for the soul to learn to master limitations. We reincarnate on earth and forget everything we are, all our other lives, and place the greatest limitations on ourselves. On earth, you plunge yourself into the darkness to see if you can bring yourself back to the light, remember everything you are, and as some Hindus have termed it “achieve realization of your true self.”  

 

Not everyone uses a form of Hello.  In Russian it's an imperative (command) "be healthy!"  What sounds something like zdra-voo-iy-tay in western ears.  The ending changes depending on who you're talking to (friend, formal, ...)